syrah v pinot

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syrah v pinot

Postby Romo » Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:43 pm

what is the santa barbara grape? pinot or rhone?
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Re: syrah v pinot

Postby Phil_Carpenter » Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:21 pm

wow...good question. Kind of a, "Chicken or the Egg" question...
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Re: syrah v pinot

Postby Romo » Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:27 pm

here's a hint: < its' syrah >

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syrah v pinot

Postby Phil_Carpenter » Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:50 pm

HA!! I do love me the cool climate syrah from there.

I have some pinots I think you'll like bud. Tyler, Storm, Bratcher...as well as my Clos Pepe's will do the trick.


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Re: syrah v pinot

Postby Steve Anderson » Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:05 pm

Romo wrote:what is the santa barbara grape? pinot or rhone?


By acreage it's Chard (6,470), followed by Pinot (4,250) and Syrah (1,395). :geek:
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Re: syrah v pinot

Postby Phil_Carpenter » Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:54 pm

[By acreage it's Chard (6,470), followed by Pinot (4,250) and Syrah (1,395). :geek:[/quote]

WOW! Steve! Great stats!! I would have SWORE it was pinot! SEE!! I learn something new everyday about the area...what about grenache?!
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Re: syrah v pinot

Postby Steve Anderson » Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:11 am

Phil,

Stats are from USDA (full report at http://www.nass.usda.gov/Statistics_by_ ... abtb00.pdf )

Not easy to compare, as you have to scroll by grape, with each grape having county by county totals (starting on page 14). I may have missed one, but here are the totals for Santa Barbara County in 2010 (including non-bearing acreage planted 2008-2010):

1. Chardonnay 6,471
2. Pinot Noir 4,258
3. Syrah 1,395
4. Pinot Gris 912
5. Cab Sauv 717
6. Sauv Blanc 612
7. Merlot 559
8. Chenin Blanc 327
9. Riesling 259
10. Viognier 238

Grenache is surprising at 11th with 228 acres. Also interesting that there is only 1 bearing acre of Malvasia Bianca, presumably the single block at Larner that Palmina harvests. Report shows a second acre (currently non-bearing) planted in 2008, so production may double soon.;) No way to tell if the second acrea is at Larner or elsewhere.

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syrah v pinot

Postby Phil_Carpenter » Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:18 pm

Wow!! Excellent! Thanks bud.

Grenache is suppose to be California's next grape!! Need more vines!


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Re: syrah v pinot

Postby larryschaffer » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:18 am

I think when you talk about 'the variety' for our region, it is truly a tough one - and one that as a board member of the Vintner's Association I need to 'deal with' every day. This is why our new logo for the Santa Barbara County Vintner's Association has the tagline 'Diversity Perfected' attached. We are NOT simply a pinot or chardonnay or syrah or malvasia bianca region - but instead do a lot of varieties really really well.

As you ALL know, I personally feel that the area makes the best rhone varieties in the state, and possibly the country, and hopefully this will become more 'known' with time and tasting. But you also have to look at the Sta Rita Hills and Santa Maria Valley as two of the top 10 prime Pinot and Chard regions in the country too. And then don't forget Italian varieties - you will see more and more red and whites coming out in the coming years that will most likely blow people away . . . Sauv blanc? Sure we do that pretty well too . . .

How's that for a 'short' answer?!?!?!?!
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Re: syrah v pinot

Postby Don Nuzzo » Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:55 am

I've had some AMAZING syrahs from the area (think SQN & Lillian & Jaffurs) but then, the pinots of Clos Pepe and Fiddlehead make my mouth water as well.
Chardonnay? It's a cash crop... follow the money trail ;-)
Grenache will not be a huge wine in my lifetime (in terms of popularity like cab & chard). Yet is one of my favs :-(

Larry writes "I personally feel that the area makes the best rhone varieties in the state, and possibly the country".
Larry, the state IS the 'country of wine'. If there is a 2nd best state, it is a distant 2nd. You may be too humble to say it but there it is.
I said it.
Repeat it.
Run with it.
Bow down to it.
California makes the best wines.
Viva California!
Viva SB County!
Viva central coast!

Ok, now how do i get down off this big box?
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